tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8373780254831438828.post1985727660863833968..comments2023-04-29T02:26:08.411-07:00Comments on The Harrogate Agenda: Electoral reform does not reform our governance.Pete Northhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04172420184509249126noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8373780254831438828.post-76757411838545698052021-02-17T05:24:25.113-08:002021-02-17T05:24:25.113-08:00Yes, "The public may be wrong" and often...Yes, <b>"The public may be wrong"</b> and often will be on a variety of issues but, to misquote William Buckley, <i>"I'd rather entrust the government of the UK to the first 400 people listed in the Burnley telephone directory than to the current incumbants."</i><br /><br />Niall Warry seemed to be voicing the perils of PR rather than suggesting that is a path down which we should go. <br /><br />I would love to see some way <b>"of giving independents a chance of winning seats,"</b> but the present system in heavily stacked in favour of The Party system. Do you have any suggestions?Alfredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01694719785236153072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8373780254831438828.post-76848665087375775342021-02-17T03:27:38.406-08:002021-02-17T03:27:38.406-08:00Why would governments be competent if they took ac...Why would governments be competent if they took account of the views of the public? The public may be wrong. As far as electoral reform goes, it is not necessarily synonymous with PR. There may be ways of giving independents a chance of winning seats, without necessarily having PR.jsampson1945https://www.blogger.com/profile/02537831830793237262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8373780254831438828.post-12754381825384876702021-02-07T03:29:34.236-08:002021-02-07T03:29:34.236-08:00Alfred, my point was that ELECTORAL reform is larg...Alfred, my point was that ELECTORAL reform is largely a Red Herring. <br /><br />As to your last comment our six demands are very radical! Niall Warryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13815435878278635965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8373780254831438828.post-12654097041310991802021-02-06T04:25:51.478-08:002021-02-06T04:25:51.478-08:00PR has its pros and cons, but as you discuss, with...PR has its pros and cons, but as you discuss, with PR it is mostly cons. The Party system is one of the major failings of our current form of governance as it grows to require loyalty to the party above all else. The electorate comes a very long way down the priority list. Despite your lack of success, and if we are to reform governance from within, surely independent candidates are the only way to go. That’s a big “if”. I’m not yet convinced that reform is just <b>”largely a Red Herring.</b>”<br /><br /><b>”one key reason our governments are so incompetent is that they attempt to govern divorced from the views of the public at large”</b> Isn’t that the inevitable result of the Party System? <br /><br />Maybe implementation of an agenda such as THA needs something more radical than internal reform, but what? Alfredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01694719785236153072noreply@blogger.com